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We're considering of doing a year time skip after the Tournament of Power to allow for new societies to rebuild from the wars and destruction since the beginning of the site. This wouldn't affect characters except for a forced year in aging and people would have time to do some threads before (I imagine we'll take a few months of rest before we do any other big arcs). But then after the time skip this will enable villains and heroes to do battle as normal before without worrying about "endangering the universe" to promote a fun and conflicted DBU!
What do you guys think? This is an open forum (heh... forum) for everyone so don't be shy!
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A bit of statement I'll toss before I put in my words in. I'll be frank, and I honestly have a lot of fun in this forum and want to somehow share my view as newbie. If I touched sensitive matter I apologize in advance. This is... both opinion and... suggestion I guess? Or more of a wishlist?
First of all, I think it's a great idea. Honestly as a new member, kinda thought that I'm jumping at the wrong time... I admit it might be mostly my own fault for not reading important stuff before joining or ask around "hey, what's the important stuff happened around here?" and just... well, go in. It doesn't work like that. In the end, I ended up being lost and just gunning all open thread in Earth, as much as I can, hoping that I'm at least getting somewhere here. I agree that one year time skip might be the best. Get some fresh start, maybe couple it with some advertisement incentives or something like that, so less of a feeling for new member to pop up and is like "...sorry, what was that?" or "Wow, earth was destroyed? I meant to start there!" or something of similar effect.
Second of all, can newer members given some event or something that kind of could involve us more with the site and our character? Not kinda ToP ish, but more like smaller ones, one that have feeling of "oh, this is an important event!" that would probably add in some character development, like Raditz's arrival on Earth in the series. I admit, it kinda bothered me a bit... the huge power gap between the newer member at the stronger member, but I don't want to suggest something like "OK, give some worldwide PL raise because a year has passed", that's kinda strange and iffy. I just feel... that's too cheap. I believe people gain their PL rightfully, so to just give handout of PL like that would probably undermine what the older member doing so far. So I'm suggesting some form of an event to compensate instead and to not be cheap. Might not be a good idea to do it RoD style either.
...Although now that I think of it, kicking from original Dragon Ball to Z with Raditz appearance was a bit of too strong of a kick for new members I guess =w=;... Well, just a thought. I think the idea is that I'd love some newbie orientated events. =w=
...I think that's all, again, I'm sorry if the suggestion is too stupid or anything of similar nature. It's just an idea, I guess.
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I think it’s a great idea considering it’d take a year irl for the universe to be fixed. I believe it would be nice to include a nice time-skip incentive. No PL or Zeni but maybe try a lottery of items that could be used in one thread while still being lore friendly. Just my idea I’m not sure if you can create bots on proboards for lottery.
If we were to go the PL route it should be limited to an option of PL or Zeni so a 10% PL boost for those with LMB and 5% for BMM. We also could do just a lottery of different items for gain mulitpliers. The lotteries could be simple dice rolls. Do with this information as you wish, I just decided to share this with you guys since I’ve been apart of a site-wide timeskip before and it worked well.
Post by King of All on Jan 20, 2018 17:02:55 GMT -5
Sorry Beat... i dont fully understand your suggestion? are you just asking for more events for the lowbies? if thats the case then unfortunately its just because you joined in between events. a while ago we had a world martial arts tournament that everyone could participate in. the lowbies would fight vs one another and the end tier would fight each other. it did give a heck of a pl boost too.
were always looking for new and fun waus to help lowbies grow in strength but what everyone needs to remember is that its not all about power, its about the stories you create with your characters and those you want to write with.
having a bunch of open threads is in no way a bad thing. you get to try and build stories with even more people
anyways for the time skip idea, i do liker the thought of a lottery wheel actually, seeing as people would still be doing things during that year period...
with that, i think we should have everyone add a bit of a lore post to their profiles as to what their characters were doing in that year to help increase the mortal level.... this would also give people a chance to explain any new kids or relationships or whatever.
Post by Holly Dae Valiare on Jan 20, 2018 17:40:19 GMT -5
First off, I definitely approve of a time skip. DBU definitely needs a break from all the madness, and this interlude is a good way to do it. It might be interesting to make it even longer then a year (like maybe 3). Since it would give even more time for civilizations to rebuild and repopulate. Plus it would be interesting for characters who have (or will shortly have) children, since it would allow for them to grow old enough to interact with their parents. Putting that aside though, having to worry about the mortal level does make things tricky for the more... ambitious individuals of DBU. So any kind of time skip would be good, whether it's one year, two, three, etc.
For nothing to happen for a year or more, I would think that the major powers would have to make some kind of truce/treaty, since as of right now people such as Nakiya are planning to do things even as the tournament of power is going underway. Plus the Saiyans are pretty pissed at the demons for blowing up Saiya, extinguishing Saiyan souls in the afterlife, etc. So an IC reason for the ceasefire is definitely needed, since it wouldn't make much sense otherwise.
Also maybe a wish with the dragonballs could have restored a few things, like the north of Earth and Saiya/brench. Although the latter coming back would be kind of a slap in the face to the people who destroyed it though. Maybe a year would be enough time for the North of Earth to be fixed? Or some kind of solution could have been found (there was mention of a tree that counteracted the tree of might in that RoD. Tree of Life I think). If a wish isn't made, then at the very least I think the Tree of Life should fix the northern area of Earth.
I see that a couple people here are already bringing up additional incentives for the time skip. PL is a good one, since it would allow newer members and weaker characters to catch up a little bit. And of course the really strong characters would get little or no increase in the time skip. I'm not going to list specific numbers though, since that's something that would be debated among the staff anyway, but it does make sense for people to get stronger in the time skip.
The last point I want to talk about is a direct response to Beat (and newer members in general). Most of the major events that happen on the site are the result of players just doing things with their characters. Jarvis invading Natto, Nasu invading Brench and turning it into Saiya, etc are all things that are the result of players just being players. If you really want to go back, things like the invasion of the lookout and the PTO being claimed by a Brenchian are also just the result of just individual character actions, and not something planned by the site as a whole.
Individual player influenced events constitutes most of the major things that happen on the sites in terms of percentage and frequency While the Tree of Might RoD was built up to and prepared in advance, Jarvis invading South City, Rukia getting involved in the claim for Guru on Namek, and Nakiya and Ash invading Saiya weren't events that were planned out the way that ToM was. The most recent example of this is my character Holly claiming the title of Queen of Earth. This wasn't a major site event that involved a lot of people, and now it's officially a part of the site lore (in the site rules section).
The point I'm trying to make is that DBU is a community that is mostly shaped by what people do with their characters in context, and not as oriented on staff making major events happen. So if all the new members wanted to get together to do some sort of event for them, then you can totally do that. If the site does decide to do an event for newer people though, well more power to all of you. But just keep building up your characters and do as you will on the site. Who knows where you can take things?
And those are my two cents on the idea. It's an idea I definitely support, and I look forward to see how this idea is flushed out. Whether we decide on the lottery or a PL increase, it would all be interesting to see it all play out.
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Aye me and Koma in particular usually try to create weaker allies/minions for the purposes of giving weaker players someone to fight during big events. Hell that's part of the reason Carva and Tomina got as strong as they did during the Brench RoD. They were at the time considered weak characters but they were given a place to shine by fighting someone around their level whether it was a plethora of weak combat enabled NPCs or Tomina actually taking on an ally of Nakiya's!
Aside from that the rest is in your guys hands. You can do plan your own mini-events any time! I actually had an idea for a small event as well down the line involving my Namekian, but that won't be for awhile due to the Tournament of Power/Staff work taking up a lot of my time. Now keep in mind that if you do mini-events and you want them to affect site lore (I.e. blowing up a planet or even a city) those are considered RoD's and will put you in danger of being killed (even by higher players potentially). I would recommend staying away from anything too ambitious or big as it could lead to your character getting rekt (as we can't just turn a blind eye to things our characters would react too ICly).
A good example though of a mini event was essentially something I had had planned when I first joined. I was going to take a group of us together to enact a little mini-event plot I had conjured and I was going to take charge of "DM-ing" said plot in a sense while also involving my own character Heizen. It was an NPC based plot meant to take place in free space outside the usual factions influence, and involve a corrupt alien society and a rebellion that they had sought outsiders help in destroying or helping (depending on your character). This was pretty popular although it didn't get to happen because of IRL circumstances influencing most of us!
We did have a cool mini-event in Makai as well though with the Demon Lords attempting to take control of Nakiya's throne while she was gone. You can find it in the Demon Realm forum as "Coup D'Evil". This is a good example for the types of threads you guys can do if you wanna work together to do something cool!
I'm not too crazy about giving out free PL tbh given how many things we do to try and boost members of the forum already. A lottery idea could be cool though depending on the scale and function of it though!
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Sorry about the confusion Komama XD; But basically, rather than something like martial artist event, I'm more looking like what Heizen meant in my post. Yes, I do agree that it's all about character development first and foremost, so I meant something like this instead of more martial artist based events =3 Sure world martial artist tournament would be fun, but mini events like crime syndicates or something of similar event would be great too XD (had no idea that members could start that. My bad there umu)
Time skip wise... I'd fine with two, but three probably a bit too much. Too many event that could be skipped in my character's growth to be written OOCly D: One would be great, but probably a bit too short for rebuilding I think... What about allowing people to make a rebuilding thread? Like, whatever they do... like, stopping bandits, helping with construction, or doing something that contributes to the rebuilding as a whole? Maybe keeping track of the rebuilding progress too and it affects the forum's description too? Just an idea.
Post by Holly Dae Valiare on Jan 20, 2018 23:00:30 GMT -5
Three years isn't that too bad for development. If you're really concerned about development Beat, you can always do Flashback threads which cover your character growing. I plan on doing that for some of my characters as well too. So even if the time skip is that long, you don't have to worry about missing any part of your character growth. If anything, it would actually help you. Since it means you can do flashback threads AND present threads. So it would help you with gains more.
If you and other new members want to do threads on the reconstruction, you're welcome to do that. Like I said, nothing stopping new members from doing their own things. You don't need permission most of the time, with a few exceptions.
The idea of the timeskip in the first place, is to recover somewhat. I understand the appeal of multiple years, but it's not supposed to affect things on a major scale, like some kind of free pass. I don't believe collaboration for such a thing would be difficult, but I personally think it's better to work for it than to assume. An example would be the Queen Of Emptiness thread, and East City's fall. I can't speak for the others who were involved, but it really did seem like Heizen's Ally was going to die at one point in the thread, if not for the use of bulking.
Reconstruction and the like, can be done with Sagas, and earth's current situation has been talked about. However, I personally think it's somewhat dependent on current influences characters like Rukia, Nakiya, Koma, etc. have, if it's not to be done off-screen. With the other cities being destroyed, Capsule Corp and what businesses it allows to flourish, is the one who has all of the supplies for such, and the current Queen of Earth has a one-sided feud, where she previously refused to work together with the corporation, based on spite. Recently, some refugees were brought back on earth for a reason not yet explained, but it's a clear complex matter requiring consideration and input that wouldn't stray from things currently established. I.e. Rukia being willing to accept provisions from either Saiyan factions, but due to secretly wishing for demons to be apart of earth's society, she wouldn't want him to actually come to earth. Especially when Saiyans just revived.
There are other icly debates there, but the point is, it's easier to manage off-screen, personally.
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It's probably better to leave it to one. The point is to formulate the reconstruction of the alliances and such and 3 years is a long time in our RP to fill in OOC with collaboration.
I am pretty much fine with all that was said above, so I won't repeat stuff. I am fine with a time skip after the Tournament of Power— not immediately after, which brings me to the only question I have in mind. Do we want not to give PL? I know it feels kind of greedy, but it's just that I can't imagine certain characters doing anything for one year; take Cornatto for an example, Nasu, or really most Saiyans. And one year is certainly not a month, so I believe there shouldn't be a static PL bonus. Maybe simply establish a little PL bonus over gains in the period post-Tournament of Power/pre-timeskip? Perhaps, something like that bonus we got when we placed ourselves second on that Top RP website. A PL Gains Bonus that is accounted for a limited number of threads, which are then graded during the time skip establishment? So, it's still 'earned' technically and not just a reward given for nothing!
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I am pretty much fine with all that was said above, so I won't repeat stuff. I am fine with a time skip after the Tournament of Power— not immediately after, which brings me to the only question I have in mind. Do we want not to give PL? I know it feels kind of greedy, but it's just that I can't imagine certain characters doing anything for one year; take Cornatto for an example, Nasu, or really most Saiyans. And one year is certainly not a month, so I believe there shouldn't be a static PL bonus. Maybe simply establish a little PL bonus over gains in the period post-Tournament of Power/pre-timeskip? Perhaps, something like that bonus we got when we placed ourselves second on that Top RP website. A PL Gains Bonus that is accounted for a limited number of threads, which are then graded during the time skip establishment? So, it's still 'earned' technically and not just a reward given for nothing!
I'd be a lot more open to this suggestion than the others presented tbh.
Post by King of All on Jan 22, 2018 11:16:01 GMT -5
Hmmm okay so, so far I am seeing that 2 years Time Skip seems to be a happy medium for everyone. Not too long and not too short. It wont happen immediately after the TOP, giving people time to come back home and settle in before we do the skip (this will be some months away, seeing as the ToP Will take a good while anyways I imagine).
Now, for rewards in the interim such as PL, Zeni, etc etc... I know of a plugin (I'll have to find it again) that's just a wheel of prizes. We could set in things like items, zeni, and to 1 person (maybe) even a dragonball wish if they have a dragon-radar. This would allow further reconstruction of the universe since Lagerus would basically force them to wish a planet or some kind of civilization back. >> Power level rewards: I'd have to go back and see how I did it before when we celebrating our station on Top RP... I think I gave extra PL for certain threads done in a certain time frame right? Well going off of that, we could include a bonus on up to 3 flashback threads done during the timeskip? LMB players could get a 50% bonus to gains, while BMM get what, 20%?
Now speaking of Lagerus, she would be the main reason the treaty is in play. Because even though she isn't attacking anyone directly, Nakiya would still be quite underhanded in her efforts unless kept in check. Lagerus will be the only reason the big end gamers aren't out tearing shit up again.
>>> Flashback threads are definitely welcome, but they will be thoroughly scrutinized when grading to make sure that you aren't breaking any of the time skip neutrality.
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I would rather have a longer timeskip, but 2 years seems good enough. Yes, Lagerus would keep a tight leash and thus we can justify why nothing hit the fan during these peaceful years.
As for gaining PL and stuff, I'm all for what corn and koma are proposing. But before we get into details, I would like to hear more from the users.
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