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This is my idea for a position. This could be kinda like the assistant thing for normal Shinjin, I guess.. but it wouldn't require someone to be a Shinjin. xD
Supreme Kai Planet (Afterlife)
Guardian - one for each Supreme Kaioshin This position was established, or would be rather, after Nareli's re-awakening. The Supreme Kai with all that she has seen in her time watching the universe and her fellow Kaioshin would come to realize that they are simply incapable of defending themselves against a direct threat. Majin Buu would be a prime example of this with the number of Kaioshin he was able to kill before he was put down. These guardians are sworn to protect the Kaioshin they are assigned to with their very lives. They are to remain by them at all times unless that Kaioshin explicitly tells them otherwise, thus giving them the same anchor to the afterlife as they do- though not nearly as restrictive.
Grand Supreme Kai, Nareli - Vacant
Northern Supreme Kai - Vacant
Eastern Supreme Kai, Mar - Vacant
Western Supreme Kai, Rumia - Vacant
Southern Supreme Kai - Vacant
Requirements:
-Good Aligned
-Dead
Benefits:
- When a Kaioshin uses their Kai Kai racial their guardian may choose to follow and help them. Bringing the guardian along costs stamina, however.
- When with the Kaioshin they are assigned to, they gain 15% more PL gains. This is because the Kaioshin and their chosen guardian will most likely be training together a lot.
- A Guardian MAY return to the living world instead of remaining on the Supreme Kai planet. Their assigned Kaioshin may bring them back using Kai Kai, but that would put it on cooldown and the guardian could only remain there until the threat is gone. (Usually RoD or Saga, assuming one starts in the otherworld that is a direct threat to the supremes.)
Note: This is a five way position, as there are five Supreme Kai's. I know it's something new and would be a bit harder to implement, but I find the idea neat.
I'd like to know what the rest of you think. xD I'm sure most of you know how stuff works better than I do. So I'd appreciate opinions and stuff.
I really like this, it'd encourage and give people a chance to RP with the kaioshin, rather than keeping them locked to solos or having to buy npcs just to get an opportunity to RP with someone.
The only thing I'd be iffy about is being made to follow with the kaikai thing. It makes sense, but it'd probably still have to be agreed upon Out of canon.
Of course it has to be agreed upon OOC~ I figured it was a given. xD But, on that note, the Kaioshin in quesiton could tell their guardian to stay behind and defend the afterlife.
"Pfft totally think there should be a position for the Assistant of a God of Destruction but I suppose I can say I enjoy this...at least as long as I get my pudding Supreme Kai."
Post by King of All on Apr 22, 2016 12:28:18 GMT -5
This sounds like a pretty neat idea actually... but I'd say a guardian has to be dead as a requirement, or else have to be an afterlife race like the Oni...
also Kai Kai could work differently in the case of guardians... like... their Supreme Kai can chose to send the guardian OR himself at no stamina cost, but if they both go, then the Supreme Kai using the Kai Kai would have to use stamina to get them there, therefore needing to spend a turn or two recovering that stamina~
I would prefer if the requirement were for the candidate to be dead instead of having to be an afterlife race specifically. It opens up more RP for them Kai's~ and a stamina cost on sending both the Kai and the guardian to the living world through Kai Kai sounds pretty reasonable- maybe put a cooldown on it, too?
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Post by King of All on Apr 22, 2016 14:11:38 GMT -5
The cooldown would be the same as the Kai's. They need to be able to sense something of significance happening, which doesn't happen too too often! so it's not too bad. lol
And I meant that you have to be dead, or an afterlife race, not one or the other
I might be okay with this but at the same time just to be clear. Yes either after life races or dead only to be assistants. But under no circumstance will either of them be allowed to leave the after life for any longer hten the kai kai and the garudian must tag along with the kai.
As such they will be tied till the kai's 3 topics are up and have to return with them. So the same rules as KaiKai needing a saga to trigger it and the kai will need to approve taking the guardian with them.
As well as to note beyond this moments they will not be allowed to leave the after life just as the kai is tied to the afterlife if oyu become a gaurdian to them you are as well tied to the after life. and if you revive you lost your position if you are a dead person.
I know some people may not like that kais and after life races are locked in the after life and how that makes rp be with them at times. But this was noted when after life races were first suggested and HEAVILY noted when shinjin became a thing. So this is non budgible part. If oyu want to be a guardian and are not already a after life race. You WILL stay dead and STAY in the afterlife in all times beyond when Major Saga allows a KaiKai. And i will also be pushing that this include the Kai having to go with them. Some other penalty as well for the dead gaurdian will be needed if they die in said saga. Either not being allowed i the actual saga or a loss on dE gains if dead given the dead when killed are just gone I wouldn't want to inflict lost off character so since you are already dead I would just suggest lose of your body and need to reearn it as well as loss of the bous gains but not normal gains in the said saga.
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So if this is ever to be a thing it needs restrictions such as ability to lose body 'again' and lost of dE gains I feel for if a dead person goes down in a saga. As well as make sure to note dead people or any after life races are Tied and this I'm making a ntoe of TOO the Kai
The Kai won't be sending you alone they will go to the living world as well for the 3 topics you don't have to be tied to them for the 3 b ut you do have to LEAVE in the 3rd leaving thread they leave in. And if you ever fully revive and return to living world you WILL lose the position.
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I don't think a guardian should lose DE gains just for being a guardian, if that's what you mean. But if they die DIE, as in get erased from existence pretty much, it would make more sense for them to lose it since.. well, they don't exist anymore. xD
Though I think to prevent them from being gone entirely because that would just suck to lose a character, there should be a way for that guardian to come back. They don't get the DE gains since they got punted, but they aren't gone forever.
Also, I do agree the guardian should be tied to the Kaioshin. And if they do come back to life, they should lose the 15% gain benefit, but not the position.. at least not entirely. Someone that's in the afterlife could make a claim for it, but ultimately it should be up to the Kaioshin who their guardian is. So in a way they keep the position.. but if they're alive it's nothing more than a name.
Also, one other thing. There would probably be people that want the position and they're kinda.. you know, alive. xD They probably don't want to make their character suicidal ICly, either. As that's just a weeeee bit dark. Would there be a potential solution to that? Or would the person that wants the position just have to wait until they've been killed- assuming they'll even ever be killed?
If the Gaurdian isn't a living after life race and a dead person then yes they'd lost the body and De gains and only receive a normal grade If they lose in the saga. Given they aren't at the risk of being wiped out instead they'll just appear as a soul in the after life again since wiping out a soul permanently isn't allowed just like sagas in the after life unless special circumstances arose. So if a soul of a non after life race wants that position they would be dead with a body. So fi they go to earth in the kai kai and die in said saga they go back to after life as a soul. They only gain DE gains IFF they live through it.
And positions for the after life are possible ideas in the past but always pushed to other movements such as why demon god the shin position is in the makaii realm NOT after life. So any gaurdian after life race is going to have to be a dead soul with the Kai or a after life race already there to avoid the possible lose of DE gains from death if already a dead person with body alone. Kai's are meant to be a restricted race and after life things even more so as no battle saga wise with actual risk is allowed to happen there. All after life is heavily observed and meant to be restricted.
It was against my desires to allow minions of Kai's to roam around in the first place as well. But actually players won't be the boots on the ground feeding Kai's information either. I'm afraid if there is a after life position opened up it will tie them there and if they revive they'll lose for the most part contact with said Kai as well
As important to note. No one but a Kai can break the barrier telepathically with the after life. The best any player can do is makaii or hbtc dimensional barrier. Kai's aren't meant to have a extreme impact on the living world beyond when the major sagas and threats loom ahead and they need to step in. in which case we refer to Kai Kai.
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Also important to note. If a Kai is dead until their revival they as well can't use Kai Kai to go into a saga until they get to their revial cost and ditch the halo too
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It opens up more RP for them Kai's~ and a stamina cost on sending both the Kai and the guardian to the living world through Kai Kai sounds pretty reasonable- maybe put a cooldown on it, too?
